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A clue to GENTLEMAN.
61 comments were received for this competition (from 11 competitors, 1 other)
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Comments on the competition
1.
A few clues tried a charade of GENTLE and MAN – this is a bit of a weak and unimaginative device where compound words are to be clued.
2.
Not an easy clue to disguise sufficiently to challenge the solver, so, in awarding points, I was attracted to those that were able to do this. The stand out clue for me was 18 – brilliant!
3.
30 Very original
 
Comments on the clues
2. Animated fifth of November glee at end of celebration, finishing with ashen guy
1.Good clue but just a little spoilt for me by use of 'ashen' in this context.
2.Ingenious, except "finishing with [x]" doesn't indicate the final letter as clearly as "finish of [x]" or "[x]'s finish"
3. Canny lad
1.Issue of same roots
4. Dashing Glen meant to be gallant
1.This works to a point with 'gallant' used as a noun.
5. Elegant male…knight, possibly?
1.A very minor detail, but I don't think you need both "possibly" _and_ a question mark.
2.Succinct and best of the 'elegant' anagrams.
6. Elegant mink oddly modelled for M in Paris
1.Definition too indirect/imprecise
7. Elegant name regularly used for refined fellow
1.Indirect anagram since "name regularly" is not deterministic (could equally indicate AE in the fodder)
2.Good basic clue.
3.If "used" is the anagram indicator here, it's not a clear one
8. Entangle a thousand around an aristocrat
1.Surface reading a bit vague
9. Extremely modern, elegant kind of address
1.Not sure that 'kind of' cuts it as a anagrind.
2.Vague definition – gentleman is more a "form of address" than an "address"
10. Fed troubled teen lots to begin with in making finer person (9)
1.Indirect anagram
2.Surface reading seems strange; insertion indicator seems misplaced
11. Fellow accompanied by elderly lover is a courteous and honourable one
1.Gent shares roots with Gentleman
2."Gent" is just an abbreviation for the answer, so not fair/interesting to use in the charade.
3.Perhaps a better charade than GENTLE + MAN, but GENT is just an abbreviation of GENTLEMAN
15. Gentile name, ie not fanciful fellow from Verona
1.Gentile – samne root as gentleman
2."ie not" is a stretch for "not ie". Surface isn't plausible/meaningful
17. Good name lent maybe to a polite person
1.Not sure "to" is a standard linkword (to a non-verb definition), which makes it padding here
18. Guy rope at the back replaces one in faulty alignment
1.Stand out clue for me – well-disguised word play – excellent.
19. He gets respect distributing information about mental illness.
1.Not sure about "illness" as an anagram indicator.
20. He is good company. Mental, however ultimately fun (9)
1.Company = GE is too esoteric
21. Honourable chap’s soft with servant
1.Same root
2.or maybe just Honourable chap's kind servant,, I gave it 2 points anyway though
22. Hospitaller with the low-down on mental stress?
1.DBE lacks indication of example
2.Not sure about "stress" as an anagram indicator, or "with" as a linkword.
23. I lost to a non-believer? And to the principal, a refined male?
1."X lost to Y" in the sense above means "Y has won X (from something)" and can't indicate deletion!
24. Info let out on British tax haven, am officer indicated
1."am". Definition seems imprecise.
26. Male customer sent back slice of tuna melt, neglected (9)
1.Excellent idea, but "male customer" is not a definition in Chambers. A gentleman might be a male anything, not specifically a customer.
2.Sending back a "slice" of a sandwich sounds a bit odd.
27. Meghan lent preparation H relieving Prince Charming?
1.Gave this a merit for the idea, but not convinced by nounal anagram indicator or relieving for being deleted so regrettably no points.
2.Deletion of H doesn't parse
3.Nice (if somewhat tasteless) idea, but I don't think the cryptic grammar works.
4."relieving" should precede the letter it's indicating for deletion
29. Mr. Nice Guy?
1.I really wanted to see the queston mark directly behind the MR somehow
2.I like the conciseness of this clue
30. Nameless, this lent gravity somehow
1.The &. lit definition is far too fuzzy
31. No lady, Boris's sister-in-law, Amelia
1.Very obscure reference.
34. Preposterous tuna melt neglected rye.
1."Preposterous" is not a reverse hidden indicator, even if one accepts it is a reversal indicator.
2."Preposterous" not a clear reversal indicator, definition obscure.
35. Refined elegant navy male.
1.Needs a "?", since not all gentlemen are in the navy.
2.n = navy seems to be an 'American English' abbreviation.
36. Refined, trim and elegant male (9)
1.Trim can't be a verb in the wordplay without ruining the grammar. However, it works as an adjective.
2.'trim' does not form part of the definition of 'gentleman' and spikes the &lit element.
3.A gentleman isn't necessarily trim and elegant
37. Rowdy neighbours entering disturbed elegant toff
1.Hard to know which "neighbours" are indicated, or what "rowdy" means in this context.
40. Strange ambulance runs out of control, missing a car and bus, to deliver this chap.
1.Lot of work put in but surface looks laboured particularly due to strange anagrind
2.Might be better if shorter, but it made me laugh, so for me this is the winner.
3.Inventive but long clue with a surreal storyline.
41. Vulgar Latin from eminent gallant, eccentric fellow (9)
1.from works as extraction tool not subtraction
2.ia “From” enough to indicate deletion ?
42. Who, at sea after net is cast, might cause entanglement
1.Even with reverse anagram clues you need a definition
43. Without a pair of wobbly bits he'd be a lady
1.Cant use woman to clue man. It clues man and gentleman
2.Same would be true of e.g. cameraman. "The car is without the house" = "the car is outside the house" and not "the car surrounds the house"
3.Not sure that the selection indicator for 'wo' works well enough but it certainly made me smile.
4.Could also be policeman, anchorman, etc.